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MikeGC
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This came to mind when reading another thread about safety.
(here - viewtopic.php?t=12281 )

I feel I should know more about this question but prepared to expose my ignorance.

Question - does the J12 have an electric motor ?

My own belief is that it does not have an electric motor, hence the "mild hybrid" description. I’m also not clear on what qualifies the J12 as a hybrid (other than a large extra battery).
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Nissan describe there power delivery as below - the QQ J12 has MHEV in the range. Not sure really, as their website is a bit messy and don't work in places. I think they want us to report to a dealer... :o

Mild hybrid POWER (MHEV). (A mixed drive rather than one or the other running)
A petrol engine is supported by a battery during acceleration and cruising

e-POWER
A combination of petrol engine which charges the battery and an electric motor that turns wheels

100% Electric
Entirely powered by an electric motor using a battery
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Thanks Calnorth - glad it’s not just me !
My partner has a Leaf but I was out with a mate who has a plug in hybrid Mercedes GLC yesterday and the subject of mild hybrid / self charge hybrid (his wife’s Toyota) / plug in hybrid (his Merc).
I was pretty certain that the J12 doesn’t have an electric motor and is somewhat of a "cheat" for car tax, etc. purposes but not quite as ridiculous as the e-power.
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July '19 - J11B 1.3DIG-T 160 DCT Tekna - Vivid Blue
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There's a Toyota HEV across the road from me. 1.8ltr engine and no ability to external charge. Think the Drive Battery is good for less than 20miles. Stupid thing I thought.

Anyway we are to open/extend coal power plants now. So the whole thing begins to turn on its head? Letter from Kwarteng:

https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpre ... ts-please/
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MikeGC wrote: Mon May 30, 2022 8:35 am This came to mind when reading another thread about safety.
(here - viewtopic.php?t=12281 )

I feel I should know more about this question but prepared to expose my ignorance.

Question - does the J12 have an electric motor ?

My own belief is that it does not have an electric motor, hence the "mild hybrid" description. I’m also not clear on what qualifies the J12 as a hybrid (other than a large extra battery).
Not a dedicated electric motor. It's the electric starter motor which, supplied by the extra battery, helps the petrol engine sometimes.
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Thanks xavpiq
March '22 - J12 1.3DIG-T 160 CVT Tekna+ with all wheel drive - Pearl Black
July '19 - J11B 1.3DIG-T 160 DCT Tekna - Vivid Blue
March '17 - Qashqai J11A 1.5dci n-connecta - gunmetal
September '14 - Juke 1.5dci gunmetal ascenta premium (red accent packs)
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